Yeah, it might run out of fuel. Fan, light, lean. "I'm under attack!". And Roy by the way, comes out with this strange -- it's like a rake. So she decided to conduct her experiment. So that's where these -- the scientists from Princeton come in: Peter, Sharon and Aatish. ROBERT: They would salivate and then eat the meat. ANNIE MCEWEN: What was your reaction when you saw this happen? MONICA GAGLIANO: Picasso, enough of that now. So I don't have an issue with that. Like, why would the trees need a freeway system underneath the ground to connect? Actually, Monica's dog leads perfectly into her third experiment, which again will be with a plant. And if you just touch it ROBERT: You can actually watch this cascade ROBERT: Where all the leaves close in, like do do do do do do. ROBERT: Science writer Jen Frazer gave us kind of the standard story. And so I don't have a problem with that. The water is still in there. And again. And then someone has to count. ROBERT: Ring, meat, eat. Now the plants if they were truly dumb they'd go 50/50. So they might remember even for a much longer time than 28 days. So we're really -- like this is -- we're really at the very beginning of this. I mean, can you remember what you were doing a month ago? There was some kind of benefit from the birch to the fur. They run out of energy. They have to -- have to edit in this together. Promote. I've been looking around lately, and I know that intelligence is not unique to humans. They still remembered. What do mean, the fungi will give me my sugar back? MONICA GAGLIANO: I purposely removed the chance for a moisture gradient. And so I don't have a problem with that. And with these two stimuli, she put the plants, the little pea plants through a kind of training regime. No, Summer is a real person and her last name happens to be spelled R-A-Y-N-E. Isn't -- doesn't -- don't professors begin to start falling out of chairs when that word gets used regarding plants? Me first. So you can get -- anybody can get one of these plants, and we did. Different kind of signal traveling through the soil? Or even learn? And moved around, but always matched in the same way together. ALVIN UBELL: The tree will wrap its roots around that pipe. Oh, yeah. That is correct. ROBERT: Absolutely not. And she says this time they relaxed almost immediately. /locations/california/culver-city/5399-sepulveda-blvd-bank-atm/ Or it could be like, "Okay, I'm not doing so well, so I'm gonna hide this down here in my ceiling.". I'm not making this up. ROBERT: What's its job? The magnolia tree outside of our house got into the sewer pipes, reached its tentacles into our house and busted the sewage pipe. All right. That is correct. And is it as dramatic in the opposite direction? Well, maybe. No boink anymore. My reaction was, "Oh ****!" JAD: Couldn't it just be an entirely different interpretation here? Fan, light, lean. To remember? ROBERT: Monica's work has actually gotten quite a bit of attention from other plant biologists. Like, from the trees perspective, how much of their sugar are they giving to the fungus? But maybe it makes her sort of more open-minded than -- than someone who's just looking at a notebook. JENNIFER FRAZER: Then he would bring them the meat and he would ring a bell. We're sitting on the exposed root system, which is like -- it is like a mat. And we were all like, "Oh, my goodness! ROBERT: But instead of dogs, she had pea plants in a dark room. But let me just -- let me give it a try. Sugar. And not too far away from this tree, underground, there is a water pipe. LARRY UBELL: I'm not giving my age. If a plant doesn't have a brain what is choosing where to go? In 1997, a couple of scientists wrote a paper which describes how fungi JENNIFER FRAZER: Have developed a system for mining. It didn't seem to be learning anything. Remember that the roots of these plants can either go one direction towards the sound of water in a pipe, or the other direction to the sound of silence. It's almost as if these plants -- it's almost as if they know where our pipes are. I don't know where you were that day. This episode was produced by Annie McEwen. I don't know why you have problems with this. Five, four, three, two, one, drop! So there's these little insects that lives in the soil, these just adorable little creatures called springtails. Or at the time actually, she was a very little girl who loved the outdoors. Huh. JAD: So this Wood Wide Web, is this just, like, the roots? LINCOLN TAIZ: Yes. The little threads just wrapping themselves around the tree roots. JENNIFER FRAZER: As soon as it senses that a grazing animal is nearby ROBERT: If a nosy deer happens to bump into it, the mimosa plant ROBERT: Curls all its leaves up against its stem. Yours is back of your house, but let's make it in the front. We are the principals of Accurate Building Inspectors of Brooklyn, New York. This feels one of those experiments where you just abort it on humanitarian grounds, you know? That's a -- learning is something I didn't think plants could do. So you are related and you're both in the plumbing business? JAD: So we're up to experiment two now, are we not? JAD: So today we have a triptych of experiments about plants. He's looking up at us quite scared and very unhappy that he was covered in And toilet paper. Plants are really underrated. And it was almost like, let's see how much I have to stretch it here before you forget. And why would -- why would the fungi want to make this network? Yeah, I know. No, no, no, no, no. ROBERT: Special thanks to Dr. Teresa Ryan of the University of British Columbia, Faculty of Forestry, to our intern Stephanie Tam, to Roy Halling and the Bronx Botanical Garden, and to Stephenson Swanson there. With a California grow license for 99 plants, an individual is permitted to cultivate more than the first 6 or 12 immature plants. So they figured out who paid for the murder. Jigs is in trouble!" ROBERT: Like, would they figure it out faster this time? We were so inconsistent, so clumsy, that the plants were smart to keep playing it safe and closing themselves up. ALVIN UBELL: And I've been in the construction industry ever since I'm about 16 years old. ROBERT: And he pokes it at this little springtail, and the springtail goes boing! ROBERT: And we saw this in the Bronx. It's just this incredible communications network that, you know, people had no idea about in the past, because we couldn't -- didn't know how to look. And then Monica would Just about, you know, seven or eight inches. ALVIN UBELL: And the tree happens to be a weeping willow. So its resources, its legacy will move into the mycorrhizal network into neighboring trees. In this case, a little blue LED light. 2016. So no plants were actually hurt in this experiment. From Tree to Shining Tree. Yeah, and I have done inspections where roots were coming up through the pipe into the house. LARRY UBELL: That -- that's -- that's interesting. ", ROBERT: So the deer's like, "Oh, well. Instead of eating the fungus, it turns out the fungus ate them. Each one an ounce, an ounce, an ounce, an ounce, an ounce. Plants are complex and ancient organisms. I guess you could call it a mimosa plant drop box. On the fifth day, they take a look and discover most of the roots, a majority of the roots were heading toward the sound of water. [laughs]. Yes, we are related. MONICA GAGLIANO: Yeah, plants really like light, you know? ROBERT: So it's not that it couldn't fold up, it's just that during the dropping, it learned that it didn't need to. She says a timber company would move in and clear cut an entire patch of forest, and then plant some new trees. Jennifer told Latif and I about another role that these fungi play. ROBERT: Well, let us say you have a yard in front of your house. ROBERT: Then she placed the fan right next to the light so that MONICA GAGLIANO: The light and the fan were always coming from the same direction. Artificial Plants Aquarium Substrate Backgrounds Gravel, Sand & Stones Live Plants Ornaments Plant Food & Fertilizers Heating & Lighting Heaters Hoods & Glass Canopies Heating & Lighting Accessories Lights Live Fish Goldfish, Betta & More Starter Kits bird Bird Shops Food & Treats Pet Bird Food Treats ROBERT: So for three days, three times a day, she would shine these little blue lights on the plants. Exactly. I spoke to her with our producer Latif Nasser, and she told us that this -- this network has developed a kind of -- a nice, punny sort of name. The next one goes, "Uh-oh." Wait. ROBERT: Like, I don't understand -- learning, as far as I understand it, is something that involves memory and storage. It's almost as if these plants -- it's almost as if they know where our pipes are. It's almost as if the forest is acting as an organism itself. It's yours." And it was almost like, let's see how much I have to stretch it here before you forget. JAD: The part where the water pipe was, the pipe was on the outside of the pot? Like, why would the trees need a freeway system underneath the ground to connect? Yeah. She's working in the timber industry at the time. They still did not close when she dropped them. Princeton University News Transformations: Students find creativity at intersection of art and engineering. Does it threaten my sense of myself or my place as a human that a plant can do this? Jigs emerged. ALVIN UBELL: Testing one, two. So you -- if you would take away the fish, the trees would be, like, blitzed. SUZANNE SIMARD: I know. Sorry! What was your reaction when you saw this happen? It didn't seem to be learning anything. ], [ROY HALLING: With help from Alexandra Leigh Young, Jackson Roach and Charu Sinha. Good. And does it change my place in the world? One time, the plant literally flew out of the pot and upended with roots exposed. MONICA GAGLIANO: Yeah, tested it in my lab. ROBERT: That is actually a clue in what turns out to be a deep, deep mystery. ROBERT: Like, would they figure it out faster this time? And I've been in the construction industry ever since I'm about 16 years old. We went and looked for ourselves. And for a long time, they were thought of as plants. He was a, not a wiener dog. So we're really -- like this is -- we're really at the very beginning of this. ROBERT: Now, you might think that the plant sends out roots in every direction. So ROBERT: He says something about that's the wrong season. Yeah, it might run out of fuel. She says it was like this moment where she realizes, "Oh, my God! To remember? Because after dropping them 60 times, she then shook them left to right and they instantly folded up again. It's like -- it's just a massive mat of intertwining exposed roots that you could walk across and never fall through. It involves a completely separate organism I haven't mentioned yet. There was a healthier community when they were mixed and I wanted to figure out why. And Roy by the way, comes out with this strange -- it's like a rake. ROBERT: Little white threads attached to the roots. ROBERT: When you go into a forest, you see a tree, a tall tree. ROBERT: But she's got a little red headlamp on. Smarty Plants--My Latest Guest Spot for Radiolab - Scientific American Blog Network COVID Health Mind & Brain Environment Technology Space & Physics Video Podcasts Opinion Store Knowledge within. ROBERT: Salmon consumption. Actually that's good advice for anyone. And they, you know, they push each other away so they can get to the sky. They learned something. And what we found was that the trees that were the biggest and the oldest were the most highly connected. Back and forth. Very similar to the sorts of vitamins and minerals that humans need. The part where the water pipe was, the pipe was on the outside of the pot? ROBERT: Remember I told you how trees make sugar? I'm 84. Sugar. Like, they don't have ears or a brain or anything like, they couldn't hear like we hear. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. JAD: Yeah, absolutely. And therefore she might, in the end, see something that no one else would see. They have to -- have to edit in this together. ROBERT: By the way, should we establish -- is it a fact that you're ALVIN UBELL: He's on the right track. ROBERT: And he starts digging with his rake at the base of this tree. 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