Woods is an inmate of the San Quentin State Prison in California. And E WOODS: And of course I enjoy all the little moments. E WOODS: I don't - I think when you're living in the moment, you feel untouchable. You know, he running the streets. And so to me, that meant he was a very good observer. So you become accustomed to that lifestyle. Shes holding on. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). He and Nigel also co-wrote This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book inspired by the podcast and published by Crown/Random House. You're sitting across from law enforcement. You feel invincible in some ways. [12][13][14] Since his commutation, Woods has become involved in campaigns to repeal California's three strikes laws. And so (laughter) it was just incredible. His mother was a postal worker and his father was an unemployed alcoholic, who Woods described as violent and distant. And they - and I received 31 years to life. It received 1,537 entries from 53 countries. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. And that was one of the things that I appreciated about Jerry Brown - especially everything he said in that clip that you played is the way people inside think. You have to go through a lot of E WOODS: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff you have to go through. [8][9] Poor is a visual artist in the San Francisco Bay area who volunteers at the prison. She'll continue to do interviews inside San Quentin. Co-produced by inmates Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams . Los Angeles, CA. Then she started doing interviews, and then they started working together co-producing a radio show and then the podcast. OK. We get - I mean, it's - you know, it's - we're just E WOODS: You're able to go out now. [5][15] In 2020, alongside Poor and co-host Rahsaan Thomas, Woods was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Audio Reporting. Tyra got arrested first for kidnap and robbery. Earlonne Woods prefers to keep his personal life private, so he has not disclosed any information about his marital status. In fact, when I walk through the yard, one of the things I really like is that people make eye contact. He does not, however, expose his wife's identity to the public. E WOODS: I think the mentality is more of crime to you is a job. And you've said in the past that he was always the quietest person in the room, but you could tell he was a good observer. I was hoping I could talk to you a little bit about it. Ear Hustle was selected from 1,537 submissions, securing the funding for a 10-episode first season. I think the scope of the number of people that could possibly listen to this, I'm just really nervous about that. Nigel is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. I'm doing that. Ear Hustle was the first podcast to be created entirely inside a prison. So I'm not thinking that it's serious as much as I'm hearing. But, as to being cool with it, it's what it is. POOR: I'm so glad you asked about this. "[8] In particular, she praised Williams' "evocative, pitch-perfect sound design". And just listening to her tell her story to us and knowing that I've been in these type of situations or knowing that I've been probably on the other side of the gun or whatever the case may be and just hearing her loss, hearing her heartfelt testimony about this was really - it was shakening (ph), you know? Nigel, I want to play an excerpt of an episode that you were very prominent in. [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. And to hear - to take that in and to not be afraid and to not judge a person but to, like, sit with it and think about it and think about this was 30 years ago, like I just - I had to do a lot of work around that. So for me internally, I started my change. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. I was questioning everything. She first started working at San Quentin in 2011 as a volunteer in the Prison University Project, teaching the history of photography. In terms of his romantic life, Park is happily married to his wife in South Korea. And I believe, personally, that that will ease overcrowding because there are a lot of people in prison that deserve to be out. And Nigel is also a professor of photography at California State University. Once the details concerning Earlonnes marital status are available we shall update. Poor's teaching work led her to a vast archive filled with photographs taken from life inside the prison that she began using in . [3] According to The Economist, by this time Woods was one of the most famous incarcerated people in the US. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods is 47. GROSS: And Nigel, just as a person who's constantly interacting with inmates at San Quentin, do you want to know what they're incarcerated for, what crime they were convicted of? His first book, OG Told Me, is a memoir-style collection of essays about Harshaw's. He went up there. So they don't even have the opportunity to even go in front of the board to say, hey, look, for the last 21 years, I've changed, you know, because their board dates ain't till 2150, you know? And then what worries me is, like, so people will leave with this very, like, I love this guy. GROSS: Are you going to go back and visit him? Earlonne resides in the United States. I was just done. And then, I always say that, you know, a lot of people that volunteer - people like Nigel Poor, people like other volunteers that volunteer inside of prisons - are on the frontline of public safety because these are the people that's coming in and is trying to show you a different way of life or trying to help you understand differently, think differently. So how do you keep going? Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. Did you give him a hug? Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. Like, he just seemed lighter and shiny and fresh. Earlonne Woods, Nigel Poor, welcome to FRESH AIR. GROSS: We talk about the podcast and before we talk about your work together, Earlonne, I want to talk with you about life outside. I'm not doing this. And to hear how it happened to him and to hear that he was shot 19 times, you know - and I just try to visualize, like, what he was going through at the time he was being shot at by those officers. [5][6], The show is produced by Earlonne Woods, Rahsaan "New York" Thomas, and Nigel Poor. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. Woods and Poor cohost the show while Williams does the show's sound design, working in San Quentin's media lab to record music and effects, including foley work. GROSS: And - so you interviewed him about commuting your sentence. Accuracy and availability may vary. With grace and humor they walk through what life is really like behind bars, showing the humanity and depth of those they meet inside." --Catherine Burns, artistic director, The Moth "I listen to Ear . And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. You start attending different self-help groups. POOR: I know. "Ear Hustle" features stories from prison told by prisoners - their intimate, honest conversations about family visits, cellmates, solitary confinement - conversations like this one between Earlonne Woods and his co-host Nigel Poor, who's not an inmate. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three Strikes Law, the statute under . POOR: It's the bay - yeah, the bay, yeah. It addresses important issues about being human and how prisoners can be contributing citizens. I realized that he had a really intense work ethic that matched my own and that we just really got along. So you recorded interviews with Trevor and Tyra talking about how difficult it is to maintain a relationship with your child when you're incarcerated and how difficult it is to help them stay out of trouble. Instead of me representing it, Earlonne and I can represent it together. Earlonnes average salary is $61,244 per year. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. And you also spent time in solitary, where it's very hard to stay sane. But of course when someone's in prison and the other person's not, there's so many things you can't do. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. Earlonne Woods (@earlonnewoods) Instagram photos and videos earlonnewoods Follow 225 posts 24.1K followers 931 following Earlonne Woods Public figure Award winning Co-Creator + Co-Host, @earhustlesq . Not one bit, you know? And then the question is, well, what do we do about that? Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. Ear Hustle was a finalist for the 2020 Pulitzer Prize for Audio Reporting, and won a Alfred I. duPontColumbia University Award in 2021. It was - and it's not just her. And this time, they had something for me, which was the three-strike law. He is a staff writer and podcast producer at KQED, as well as a graduate of UC Berkeley's School of Journalism. There's all these restrictions. Aaron Taylor. California Gov. [5] The show features interviews with inmates who share their stories and opinions on topics like cellmates, solitary confinement, race, morality, pets, religion, gangs, and family. Jerry Brown commuted his sentence for attempted armed robbery. I've spent a total of 27 years in prison. Is he a good co-host? Part of HuffPost News. The sound was recorded because he's the co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with San Quentin inmates talking about daily life there, things like living with a cellmate in a tiny cell, what it's like to be in solitary confinement, the heartbreak of being a parent separated from your child, how everything inside is separated by race and so on. Earlonne is of white ethnicity and American nationality. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. But if we could just talk about it and come to some understanding about what's our responsibility, what's your responsibility? So you'll never get the opportunity to be in front of people to present the person that you are today. Nigel first went to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Earlonne Woods: Number one. And Earlonne just had his sentence commuted by Governor Jerry Brown in November after serving 21 years. GROSS: So you know, you're a middle-aged man now. Poor, a professor of photography at CSU Sacramento, was volunteering with the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison when she met Woods, who was serving a 31-year-to-life sentence. Like, what - why were we on this path, you know? Earlonne became busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. But apparently it's fine - like, if you fall in love, the prisoner and the volunteer fall in love, that's fine as long as the volunteer or the staff person is no longer going to be working there in any capacity. I'm always interested in people who - I'm quiet myself. And, Nigel and Earlonne, I want to wish you good luck with the retooled version of Ear Hustle now that Earlonne is out. And I - I observed Earlonne a lot. How do we present this? And they shot at Tyler, like, 40-something times. Earlonne Woods educational background is unavailable. [1][10] As of Season 4, Woods continues to make the podcast from outside prison, while Rahsaan "New York" Thomas was announced as a new co-host for recordings done inside San Quentin. I think my mother told me she loved Jesus more than she loved me. And, like a lot of inmates, he's been thinking about this moment for a long time. And, like E WOODS: My partners. The two bonded over a love of storytelling and with no formal experience, began a podcast together where they showcase the . SHAPIRO: Well, yesterday, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence. She co-created the podcast with Woods and has co-hosted and co-produced it with him. Trevor has done 14 years of a 36-year sentence. Earlonne Woods is an American podcaster and author, best known for co-hosting and co-founding the podcast Ear Hustle in 2017, and co-authoring the book This Is Ear Hustle in 2021. Let's get back to my interview with Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, featuring interviews with prisoners in San Quentin about their lives and what it's like to be incarcerated. I was on some - I would like to say other words, but I'm holding my (laughter) E WOODS: (Laughter) I'm on the radio. [9], In a Rolling Stone article about the show, Tana Ganeva called it "a fascinating, harrowing and also deeply entertaining look into life on the inside that runs the full gamut of emotions. He was sentenced to 31 years to life for attempted robbery in 1999. Woods is expected to be released on parole in the coming days, after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. What was your reaction when you found out? [1][2] Since his release, Woods has continued to co-host the podcast with Poor from outside prison, with Poor recording some parts in San Quentin with new co-host Rahsaan "New York" Thomas. GROSS: Yeah. So I think what kept me sane is that I had the philosophy where, I am going to live to the best of my ability every day that I have left on this Earth no matter where I'm at. Who is Kourtney Kellar? Content Creator @CoinAcademy; Pres. POOR: Well, let me ask you this - do you feel like we're being unfair trying to make you do this? Why didn't you invite me (laughter)? So now we just have the opportunity to travel together, to do something like this together. I go over to Nigel's house, hang out with her husband Rick. Accuracy and availability may vary. But I just - just took a course that was - seemed cool to me at the time. E WOODS: So I'll give you example. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. I hope you'll join us. So even though I'm hearing stuff and then I'm talking to him, he playing - he downplaying it. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). You have to wear the same clothes all the time. A person can get certain - a certain amount of time for the crime that they commit. And that's pretty much what I did. And I'm playing this because it's about knowing where the line is when you're interviewing prisoners and sometimes to have to ask something that's going to make them uncomfortable. And, Earlonne, since you served so much time, let's start with you. He had served 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. Eventually, the marriage fell apart. So you can't wear blue, which is what they wear. Or is he a good talker? GROSS: Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor are the co-creators, co-producers and co-hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. You end thinking, like, here's this guy who's very self-actualized. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest. So we do stories about life inside prison. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. In 1997, he was sentenced to 31-years-to-life in prison. Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. [7] They recruited fellow inmates Antwan Williams as the show's sound designer,[8] and submitted their idea for a podcast to a contest hosted by Radiotopia. He has the age of 49. . No, people get up to a thousand years to life for something that they've done in their past. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. So I've technically only been free 20 years in my life, and, since I was 17, I've been free maybe three years all together. So prison was more like, oh, hey, this is a place to go and continue your gang activity, continue your destructive behavior. POOR: I can let Earlonne answer that one. Williams was serving a 15-year sentence for armed robbery with a gun enhancement. And you start thinking differently, you know? In November 2018, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne's sentence after 21 years of . NIGEL POOR: You know, E, you've been in prison 20 years. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR, and if you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. As co-host of the 2019 Third Coast Awards Ceremony, Earlonne will make his return to the "Oscars of Radio." Last year, he beamed in via video ( watch here ) after winning a 2018 Best Documentary: Honorable Mention Award as part of the Ear Hustle team. And I keep thinking, like, a week from now, Earlonne and I could be having dinner outside the prison together (laughter). E WOODS: Hey - so I always go over to the L - I call them L7s. Woods was unaware his two convictions as a juvenile counted as two 'strikes', which made his conviction at 25 count as his third under California's three strikes law. But then someone will research you and be like, did they just feed me a bunch of bull [expletive]. They fell in love just like anyone else would. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. Due to the complex and time-consuming bureaucratic challenges associated with unusual prison activities, she decided that audio would be easier to manage than video. And I have a lot of friends that's in prison that has 200 years, 300 years to life for maybe attempted second-degree robbery. And I'm like - I'm telling my son, son, look. E WOODS: In between prison - when I got out - Tyler had just been born in '94. He gave up his brother name. GROSS: And that was because - you got such a long sentence because one crime had you convicted on two counts, so that counted as two strikes. And then I got into the lifestyle of robbing drug dealers. And I just said, when you come back, you're going to be almost a free man. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. You're more looking at what you're getting out of the situation. E WOODS: I think - I was just tripping off - he was just peeling back one of the Beatles POOR: Oh, yeah. Jerry Brown. So I think I understand more the complexity and the pressures and inside I get to see men relating in very heartfelt ways. But he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. Even after Woods is out on parole in Oakland, California, Ear Hustle said that it will continue, with Poor telling more tales from those inside San Quentin and Woods talking about the journey to re-enter society after years behind bars. And many people around me wasn't like that. And it would give the people inside the opportunity to stretch themselves intellectually and emotionally, so just creating more of a connection. Nigel first started going to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. How do you survive? I mean POOR: No, we're not allowed. TYRA WOODSON: And he began acting out. So we're going to strike you out this time. Yes, he can come to my house. GROSS: So can I ask you an honest question? Not at all. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. E WOODS: It's the bay. explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. Tyler had missed a court appearance, so he feared that he would be locked up. Earlonne is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). It didn't work out, unfortunately. - like, was with him pretty much every day. I've changed my life. California Gov. Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence in November, and Woods regained his freedom after serving 21 years of his sentence. They dont stay the same people that they were when they committed their crime. And I was paroled when I was 23, about to turn 24. But I always go over to the fantasy game guys, and I'll just sit there for a minute and try to see if I even come close to understanding what's going on on that table. (SOUNDBITE OF JOHN COLTRANE'S "OUT OF THIS WORLD"). And I got into this group. T WOODS: I received an email from one of my partners. GROSS: Yeah. You start really understanding what the word community means and what your participation in community is about, you know? SHAPIRO: When you said goodbye to him, were you crying? They said that, hey, when you went to jail when you were 17 - yeah, it was one time, but there was two convictions in that case. So this is JERRY BROWN: It all goes to this point that something very bad happens, and people will say, OK, now we're putting you in jail for a very long time. Woods has served 21 years of a 31 to life prison sentence. You know, at that particular moment, in that mindset - like today, am I OK with that? Earlonne Woods annual salary is $61,244 on average. Earlonne Woods Wife Earlonne resides in the United States. (SOUNDBITE OF NOEL BONNEVIE'S "DAHIL SA'YO"). POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. [3] After two rounds of judging, Ear Hustle was selected as the winner and added to the Radiotopia network. So, yeah. ARI. This is FRESH AIR. POOR: That's his obsession. Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life . GROSS: My guests are Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle about life inside San Quentin Prison. I'd still be sitting in San Quentin in a cell with my brother. 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